Logan Kilpatrick is one of the most plugged-in minds at the intersection of AI, product development, and developer experience. In this wide-ranging conversation, he sits down with Forward Future to talk about DeepMind’s evolution, the Windsurf acquisition, the future of AI interfaces, and why coding still matters—maybe more than ever.

He offers candid takes on the tradeoffs between voice, vision, and screen-based interactions, explains Google’s edge in scaling infrastructure with TPUs, and outlines how reasoning models and post-training are reshaping what scaffolding even means.

Whether you’re a builder, researcher, or product leader, Logan’s vision is clear: the next wave of AI isn’t just about smarter models, it’s about making them feel native, useful, and human-centered.

Key Moments from the Interview

00:00 – Developer AI’s Second Wave
From GitHub Copilot to DeepMind’s Windsurf acquisition.

07:00 – Founders & the Talent Play Trend
Why team-only acquisitions may hurt the startup ecosystem.

12:30 – Form Factor Futures
Why voice, screens, and glasses will all coexist.

17:45 – The Case for Coding
Why learning to code is still the best way to master AI.

23:15 – Browsers, Agents & Internet 2.0
A future where agents—not users—visit websites.

29:30 – Models Becoming Systems
Post-training, memory, tool use, and where to build next.

35:10 – Vibe Coding & the 100M Developer Vision
Bringing users along as they code with AI.

42:00 – Gemini, Scaling Laws & The TPU Advantage
How Google is competing in an increasingly crowded race.

Full Interview: Logan Kilpatrick: Windsurf Acquisition, Gemini 3, Agentic Browsing, Veo 4, and more!